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No ko smo pa pri Viperju, pa moram povedat, da to ni avto za prah dol brisat. Je eden izmed redkih ameriških avtomobilov, ki so se res izkazali na dirkah po celem svetu. Prava cestna pošast. Pa ne mi pravit Petronas, da bi ti ostal hladnokrven, če bi se peljal v takšnem primerku. Avto je pa tako hiter, kakor je voznik ruknjen in vloži v predelavo. Ti avtomobili nimajo nobene veze z serijskimi, ker so hudo predelani.

Rad bi jih videl skupaj na progi:))))
Tam bi pa res kakšna supra poletela in to na prvem ovinku;))

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Ce je ze kateri serijski hiter je to GTS ACR (ki jih je samo 100), navaden ni bogvekaj. GTS pa ima z obicajnim bolj malo skupnega. Je namrec skoraj cel iz karbonskih vlaken. GTS za dirke pa so spet posebna zgodba, dirkajo po progah kot so Paul Ricard. Niti slucajno nima tako dovrsenih voznih lastnosti kot primer 360modena. Tudi predolgi menjalniki so problem pri viperjih. Reability pa je poglavje zase :-)




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Ja pa to zdaj spet primerjaš predelano Supro z navadnim Viperjem.

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Avta, ki ima 7990 ccm in okoli 500KM z toliko navora, da ga lahko šenka 3/4 našim avtom, ne moreš dajat v nič. Pa tudi primerjava Muslov in High-Tunned Japanesov se mi ne zdi , da ravno ne moreš primerjat med sabo. Prvič: Amerikanci imajo vsi oho-ho-lala konjev, japonci pa samo 276 oz. več, ko se lotiš dela.
Ali se primerja tunned Viper & Supra ali pa NOT-tunned Viper in Supra -> v tem primeru, pa je konkurenca resda prevelika.


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Tudi navaden GTS Viper je zelo hitra mašina. Seveda ne na zelo počasni progi ala Mobikrog. Drugače pa ima GTS odlično trakcijo in dobre pospeške. Odličen stroj, ki se mu je be kolk je zunaj temperatura. Napuljeni avti z navitimi turbinami pa še kako zgubljajo silne konje, navkljub dodatnim hladilnikom.

Oboji imajo prednosti in slabosti. Je samo vprašanje katere lastnosti so človeku pomembnejše.

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uglavnem za 8000 kubicno masino ni bog ve kaj - upam da se vsi strinjamo :)
zamislite si kaj mu naredi enzo ferrari na progi :))


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Ja ne mi zdaj z Enzotom ven uletet, ko za ta denar dobiš 5 viperjev če ne še več. Pa Enzo je eksot, ki jih bo imelo le par srečnežev, Viper pa je serijski avto in ima zelo velik krog oboževalcev in lastnikov.

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uglavnem za 8000 kubicno masino ni bog ve kaj - upam da se vsi strinjamo :)



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tocno to, ni vse en bogi pospesek. US supra ima 4.5 do 60 milj z isklopljenim TCS-om
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uglavnem za 8000 kubicno masino ni bog ve kaj - upam da se vsi strinjamo :)
zamislite si kaj mu naredi enzo ferrari na progi :))


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Ni vse literska moč fantje. Viper ima dovolj konjev za zelo hitro vožnjo.

Pa ne mi zdaj z Ferrariji tu. Že nekaj časa nazaj ko sem zagovarjal Ferrarije ste soglasno ugotovili, da so jajca.

A zdaj so pa dobri?

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po voznih lastnostih so novi ferrariji predvsem 360modena dobri avtomobili, reability pa je nekaj druga, ceprav napram 348in355 je veliki napredek.
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po voznih lastnostih so novi ferrariji predvsem 360modena dobri avtomobili, reability pa je nekaj druga, ceprav napram 348in355 je veliki napredek.




Meni se pa zdi, da je razlika med 348 in 355 večja kot pa razlika med 355 in modeno.

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355 je se zmeraj na osnovi 348 :-)


F355 was definitely the star of the 90s and one of the best Ferraris ever made. Oddly, its predecessor, 348, was quite notorious due to poor controllability (by Ferrari standard, of course), harsh ride and less than perfect build quality. Autocar’s triple test in March 1994 ranked the 348GTB last, beaten by Porsche 993 Carrera and Honda NSX. When Luca di Montezemolo became Ferrari’s managing director, declining sales, deteriorating brand image and lack of motivation were the problems he faced. He was shocked that the 348 he drove was so poor, even more surprising to him was that the engineers in Maranello didn’t realise that. He decided to push Ferrari back to the orbit set by Enzo Ferrari by improving handling and introducing new technology. In addition, he wanted to surpass Enzo’s achievement by raising Ferrari’s build quality and comfort up to the level of Porsche. The first new model under the new vision was F355, which was launched in late 1994.

F355 was not a clean-sheet design. Its chassis and powertrain were based on the 348 just as the styling implied. Talking about styling, Pininfarina’s work in the F355 was very limited. It’s virtually a 348 with modified details, such as odd-looking circular fog lamps, revised shape of air dam, rear bumper, rear spoiler, skirts, engine cover etc., oh yes, don’t forget the deletion of the cheese-slicer side intake grilles which was always my favourite. Though many people fascinated with the new styling, I maintain that the old 348 looked far purer and original.

Although all the changes seemed minor, the summation of them converted the F355 into a completely different car than 348. The 348 was always nervous at the limit, in contrast, the F355 was highly controllable. Power oversteer could be induced and catch easily. There’s fine feel in the steering, although some criticised as too light and some disliked its rather slow ratio (3.2 turns from lock to lock). The chassis was very balanced and communicative, and cornering limit from the strong powerplant, grippy tyres and great brakes was lifted to new height. Many regarded it as the best Ferrari chassis since the Dino 206/246GT.

On the other hand, as Montezemolo required, the F355 was also rather easy to live with. Clutch was lighter, 6-speed box was slicker to shift and have a much useful close ratio to make use of the limited torque. The cabin was carefully crafted, with good materials and tasteful design to match. The softened springs and electronic damping provided exceptional bump absorption that hardly imagined for such a supercar. Besides, the F1 semi-auto transmission added later reduced driving effort (especially in city) without deteriorating performance. Most customers chose that option.
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meni se zdi da je toliko navdusencev nad viperji zaradi izgleda in zvoka ki ga ta avto spusca(torej : sminke), ce ze hoces zmogljivosti si omislis kakega ferrarija(res da je to zelo tesko) , ce pa to ne mores , si pa pomoje z navito supro ceneje hitrejsi kot z stock viperjem tak na dragu kot tudi na progi :)


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Torej je oblika avtomobila šminka? Svaka čast. In recimo zvok na tvoji Hondi tebi ni všeč? Bučke luščiš;))

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oblika kot sminka - viper (seveda ne samo kot sminka ampak ce bi bila ne vem kak spektakularna aerodinamicna oblika pol bi viper moral zgledati nekako tako kot enzo s tem da bi imel mashino odzadi)


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aja pa se to,
pac zvok na moji hondi ni spektakularen pa sploh ni treba da je (mam sam sp. filter),
tak da ko se pocas pelem ves kak je , je pa res da pac avti ki se vrtijo spuscajo zvoke z visjo frekvenco in to se meni dopade , najlepsi zvok mi imajo motorji pri 15000 obratih :))


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no pa se mal o zvoku :
viper ima samo mocen zvok : torej proizvaja valovanje z veliko gostoto energijskega toka, ki je posledica mocnejse eksplozije istocasno na vecih valjih
medtem kot moja honda spila z visjo frekvenco ker se bol vrti torej vec eksplozij na sec :)


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aja pa ce se dodam :
nizji obrati : vse bolj podobno traktorju
visji obrati : vse bolj podobno formuli


Civic HB VTi 98
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Ravnokar je odvzeta titula Nabijalec postov R-Typu.

Čestitam Gorek. Ti si novi lastnik titule.

Pa hvala za učno uro fizike. Sicer nič novega, ampak večkrat čuješ boljše je:)

Pa vseeno nisi nič pametnega povedal:)

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Ce preberes se enkrat cel topic bos videl zakaj sem napisu se neki o zvoku ...
primerjal sem zvok od viperja in od honde torej ce citiram mene in tebe :

Jaz: meni se zdi da je toliko navdusencev nad viperji zaradi izgleda in zvoka ki ga ta avto spusca(torej : sminke), ...

Ti:... In recimo zvok na tvoji Hondi tebi ni všeč? Bučke luščiš;))

torej zvocna sminka pri viperju bazira na stvari ki sem jo prej napisal. torej dialogi naj bi zgledali takole :
Kmet :"wow slisis ta traktor! "
Babica : "**** teti avti so pa res tecni, sploh ne morem spat"
***** :"wow glej ga tega tipa morem hiter dat noge narazen !"
:)


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