Ob Hondinem prevzemu ekipe BAR sem pričakoval ponovitev zlatih časov McLaren Honde ter Sennne, vendar sem iz dirke v dirko bolj razočaran. Glede na čas, ki ga je potreboval BMW, mislim da so imeli tudi pri BARu dovolj časa za uvajanje, izgleda pa, da bo Hondo premagala tudi novinka Toyota.
Kakršnakoli hvala ali izgovor na račun Honde bi bil tu povsem na nepravem mestu. Menim, da si zaslužijo 100% grajo.
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Točno JGV!Avto je tak kot bana(kopalna kad) in kar je najhujše, je tak že od prvega dne(vsaj BAR, Jordan je malo boljši a ne dovolj)!Lega avta je obupna!Verjamem, da je danes težko dobit dobrega konstruktorja, ampak vsak pa tudi ni dober!Res je, da je bila kombinacija McLaren, Honda in Senna idealna in neponovljiva, pa vendar...od stare slave se ne da živet, zato je treba delat.
Hondin motor danes najbrž ni tako slab kakor kažejo rezultati, kar se vidi tudi v končni hitrosti, ki je v rangu prvih treh moštev, je pa med vsemi najmanjši, tako da me čudi in jezi, da konstruktor ne zna avta zbalansirat, kar ima zaradi tega precej več maneverskega prostora.
Upam, da bo Dave Richards pometel z lenuhi(začel je že) v moštvu in začel delat tako kot je treba.Na drugi strani pa mislim, da Jordan vse preveč menja ekipo, da bi lahko pokazala svoje kvalitete.
L.P.
Hondin motor danes najbrž ni tako slab kakor kažejo rezultati, kar se vidi tudi v končni hitrosti, ki je v rangu prvih treh moštev, je pa med vsemi najmanjši, tako da me čudi in jezi, da konstruktor ne zna avta zbalansirat, kar ima zaradi tega precej več maneverskega prostora.
Upam, da bo Dave Richards pometel z lenuhi(začel je že) v moštvu in začel delat tako kot je treba.Na drugi strani pa mislim, da Jordan vse preveč menja ekipo, da bi lahko pokazala svoje kvalitete.
L.P.
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Tak kot bana... Tako smešne in na mestu pripombe že dolgo nisem slišal.
Motor je res ena boljših komponent pri BARu, kar se dostikrat lahko opazi na ravnini (no ja, kadar se režiserji odločijo prikazati slabše uvrščene). Priznati pa je treba, da vsaj v preteklosti do okvar ni prihajalo ravno malokrat in tudi to Hondi ne more biti v ponos.
Tudi jaz upam, da bo očiščen team bolj uspešen, dejansko pa do sprememb prihaja skoraj prepozno in je bilo do sedaj potrošenega že preveč denarja.
Motor je res ena boljših komponent pri BARu, kar se dostikrat lahko opazi na ravnini (no ja, kadar se režiserji odločijo prikazati slabše uvrščene). Priznati pa je treba, da vsaj v preteklosti do okvar ni prihajalo ravno malokrat in tudi to Hondi ne more biti v ponos.
Tudi jaz upam, da bo očiščen team bolj uspešen, dejansko pa do sprememb prihaja skoraj prepozno in je bilo do sedaj potrošenega že preveč denarja.
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po moje je honda tuki kriva samo tok da je izbrala u kurcu ekipo. še najbolš bi nardila če bi nardila svoje moštvo (tko k ferrari) al pa kakšnega kupila, potem bi lahko saj 100% vedu da so pr hondi zajebal...zdej je pa vse mutno rezultatov pa ni
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Hja - Honda je res razočarala vendar,...
Ne vem kako ste spremljali kaj dogajanje na kvalifikacijah (Brazilija), namreč srednji del naj bi pokazal kako dobra je lega avtomobila, medtem ko ciljna ravnina kaže moč motorja. Žal vam moram povedat, da je Jordan imel najmanjšo izgubo (ali največjo pridobitev) pri času ravno v osrednjem delu.
Tako, da morate priznati - Jordan nima tako slabega avtomobila, problem je žal v motorju.
Res pa je da je motor nov in ni izkoriščen 100%, kar je Honda lepo razložila (že sedaj v Valenciji testirajo "nov" motor - verjetno samo zamenjane določene dele ter tako povečan izkoristek istega motorja). Tudi se niti približno ne sekirajo, pravzaprav pravijo da gre po načrtih (vzdržljivost)!??
Nekako (kolikor sem jih razumel) bodo skozi sezono povečevali moč in s tem večali izkoristek motorja - kar bi bilo smiselno, predvsem pa zaželjeno! - a ne?
BAR je deležna radikalne reorganizacije, kar pomeni, da naslednjih nekaj dirk še ne bo prava, se bodo pa kmalu pokazali (ne)rezultati / ali so na pravi poti.
Če je vse kar se da prebrat res, potem bi morala Honda (Jordan in BAR) postajati vse boljša na približno vsake 3 do 4 dirke.
Konec koncev je to storil tudi Renault in sedaj je iz lani na začetku sezone praktično zadnjega moštva že 4. in bo verjetno kmalu premagalo tudi moštvo McLarna.
Kar se tiče BMW, vsaka jim čast (si nebi nikoli mislil, da so česa takega sposobni) - baje da so pr' nih Japonci zaposleni.
Prva modifikacija motorja čaka že na verjetno) naslednjo dirko - Imola...
Poskusite ohraniti malo zaupanja - konec koncev je to Honda o kateri govorimo - dirkanje je pač v njenem DNK (vsaj oni radi to rečejo).
LP, Rok
Ne vem kako ste spremljali kaj dogajanje na kvalifikacijah (Brazilija), namreč srednji del naj bi pokazal kako dobra je lega avtomobila, medtem ko ciljna ravnina kaže moč motorja. Žal vam moram povedat, da je Jordan imel najmanjšo izgubo (ali največjo pridobitev) pri času ravno v osrednjem delu.
Tako, da morate priznati - Jordan nima tako slabega avtomobila, problem je žal v motorju.
Res pa je da je motor nov in ni izkoriščen 100%, kar je Honda lepo razložila (že sedaj v Valenciji testirajo "nov" motor - verjetno samo zamenjane določene dele ter tako povečan izkoristek istega motorja). Tudi se niti približno ne sekirajo, pravzaprav pravijo da gre po načrtih (vzdržljivost)!??
Nekako (kolikor sem jih razumel) bodo skozi sezono povečevali moč in s tem večali izkoristek motorja - kar bi bilo smiselno, predvsem pa zaželjeno! - a ne?
BAR je deležna radikalne reorganizacije, kar pomeni, da naslednjih nekaj dirk še ne bo prava, se bodo pa kmalu pokazali (ne)rezultati / ali so na pravi poti.
Če je vse kar se da prebrat res, potem bi morala Honda (Jordan in BAR) postajati vse boljša na približno vsake 3 do 4 dirke.
Konec koncev je to storil tudi Renault in sedaj je iz lani na začetku sezone praktično zadnjega moštva že 4. in bo verjetno kmalu premagalo tudi moštvo McLarna.
Kar se tiče BMW, vsaka jim čast (si nebi nikoli mislil, da so česa takega sposobni) - baje da so pr' nih Japonci zaposleni.
Prva modifikacija motorja čaka že na verjetno) naslednjo dirko - Imola...
Poskusite ohraniti malo zaupanja - konec koncev je to Honda o kateri govorimo - dirkanje je pač v njenem DNK (vsaj oni radi to rečejo).
LP, Rok
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Nekaj izrezkov iz e-časopisov:
formula1.com:
...Jordan's Giancarlo Fisichella continued work on Honda's new engine, which could be introduced at the San Marino race...
...At BAR Olivier Panis, who worked with the new Honda engine on Wednesday, reverted to the current unit as part of a comparison test...
o spremembah v ekipi BAR:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines02/03/s8899.html
...New BAR team principal David Richards has told journalists that he expects to have made any necessary changes to the outfit by the San Marino GP on April 14th...
o sponzorstvu:
...Honda are the biggest sponsors in Formula One™, pumping over $200 million into the sport, according to a report published this month...
nekaj malega o Hondi v F1:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines02/02/s8574.html
Tistega o motorju ne najdem več.
LP, Rok
formula1.com:
...Jordan's Giancarlo Fisichella continued work on Honda's new engine, which could be introduced at the San Marino race...
...At BAR Olivier Panis, who worked with the new Honda engine on Wednesday, reverted to the current unit as part of a comparison test...
o spremembah v ekipi BAR:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines02/03/s8899.html
...New BAR team principal David Richards has told journalists that he expects to have made any necessary changes to the outfit by the San Marino GP on April 14th...
o sponzorstvu:
...Honda are the biggest sponsors in Formula One™, pumping over $200 million into the sport, according to a report published this month...
nekaj malega o Hondi v F1:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines02/02/s8574.html
Tistega o motorju ne najdem več.
LP, Rok
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Še to...
Hondaf1.com:
Racing is part of Honda’s DNA. From the very beginning, Soichiro Honda believed that racing was an integral part of the company’s culture and challenging spirit, a value that is as strong today as it was when Honda began racing in Formula One in 1964. Two generations of Honda competition in the championship later and the importance of Honda’s challenge is undiminished, evidenced by its unique and continuing commitment to dual team supply of equal specification factory engines. This year it furnishes its partner teams, B.A.R Honda and Jordan Honda, with the brand new Honda RA002E three-litre V10 Formula One powerplant.
Furthermore, Honda has expanded its joint chassis development programme, a key part of the manufacturer’s return to Formula One in 2000, with B.A.R Honda. The Honda R and D Formula One structure at Tochigi in Japan has been strengthened to enhance support for this project, while the B.A.R Honda relationship has been extended with a new three-year contract, beginning in 2002. As in the previous two years, a number of Honda R and D’s chassis technology engineers will be based at the team’s Brackley headquarters alongside their B.A.R colleagues.
Another essential element of Honda’s participation in Formula One remains the avowed desire to develop Honda’s own engineers through the programme. Under the management of experienced personnel, Honda’s Formula One activity is a human proving ground for the manufacturer’s young engineers and designers, exposing them to a challenging environment that demands the qualities of innovation for which Honda has built a strong reputation. It is a core ideology of Honda that its Formula One effort is based completely in-house, which enables the challenging spirit fostered by top level motor sport to be transferred to production car development as engineers move on within the company.
The release of the RA002E represents the first fulfilment of an extensive research and development during, and prior to, 2001. Its increased V angle and compact packaging results in a lower centre of gravity, reduced size and weight, while power has been increased. As with all of its engines, Honda views performance development as an ongoing process and will be looking to deliver gains throughout the season.
This year a different element of Honda’s dedication to racing is celebrated in September, with the 40th anniversary of the opening of its Suzuka Circuit, widely acknowledged to be one of the most challenging and exciting tracks on the Formula One calendar. Suzuka Circuit was built even before freeways existed in Japan and was inspired by Soichiro Honda’s belief that cars do not improve without racing. Since then it has been a magnet for all forms of motor sport and it was there last year that Valentino Rossi scored Honda’s 500th race win in motorcycle World Grands Prix, on his way to becoming the current 500cc World Champion.
In 1997, Honda opened the Twin Ring Motegi, which has hosted a round of the CART series since 1998, making Honda the only automobile company to own two circuits staging top class international motor sport events. Honda has powered the CART Drivers’ Champion for the last six years and in 2001 captured its fourth Manufacturers’ Championship.
Honda’s commitment to Formula One is stronger than ever. With the RA002E, the company is aiming to close the gap to the front of the field, pursuing its ever-present target of achieving a first win as soon as possible.
Tukaj še ni tistega o motorju damn...
LP, Rok
Hondaf1.com:
Racing is part of Honda’s DNA. From the very beginning, Soichiro Honda believed that racing was an integral part of the company’s culture and challenging spirit, a value that is as strong today as it was when Honda began racing in Formula One in 1964. Two generations of Honda competition in the championship later and the importance of Honda’s challenge is undiminished, evidenced by its unique and continuing commitment to dual team supply of equal specification factory engines. This year it furnishes its partner teams, B.A.R Honda and Jordan Honda, with the brand new Honda RA002E three-litre V10 Formula One powerplant.
Furthermore, Honda has expanded its joint chassis development programme, a key part of the manufacturer’s return to Formula One in 2000, with B.A.R Honda. The Honda R and D Formula One structure at Tochigi in Japan has been strengthened to enhance support for this project, while the B.A.R Honda relationship has been extended with a new three-year contract, beginning in 2002. As in the previous two years, a number of Honda R and D’s chassis technology engineers will be based at the team’s Brackley headquarters alongside their B.A.R colleagues.
Another essential element of Honda’s participation in Formula One remains the avowed desire to develop Honda’s own engineers through the programme. Under the management of experienced personnel, Honda’s Formula One activity is a human proving ground for the manufacturer’s young engineers and designers, exposing them to a challenging environment that demands the qualities of innovation for which Honda has built a strong reputation. It is a core ideology of Honda that its Formula One effort is based completely in-house, which enables the challenging spirit fostered by top level motor sport to be transferred to production car development as engineers move on within the company.
The release of the RA002E represents the first fulfilment of an extensive research and development during, and prior to, 2001. Its increased V angle and compact packaging results in a lower centre of gravity, reduced size and weight, while power has been increased. As with all of its engines, Honda views performance development as an ongoing process and will be looking to deliver gains throughout the season.
This year a different element of Honda’s dedication to racing is celebrated in September, with the 40th anniversary of the opening of its Suzuka Circuit, widely acknowledged to be one of the most challenging and exciting tracks on the Formula One calendar. Suzuka Circuit was built even before freeways existed in Japan and was inspired by Soichiro Honda’s belief that cars do not improve without racing. Since then it has been a magnet for all forms of motor sport and it was there last year that Valentino Rossi scored Honda’s 500th race win in motorcycle World Grands Prix, on his way to becoming the current 500cc World Champion.
In 1997, Honda opened the Twin Ring Motegi, which has hosted a round of the CART series since 1998, making Honda the only automobile company to own two circuits staging top class international motor sport events. Honda has powered the CART Drivers’ Champion for the last six years and in 2001 captured its fourth Manufacturers’ Championship.
Honda’s commitment to Formula One is stronger than ever. With the RA002E, the company is aiming to close the gap to the front of the field, pursuing its ever-present target of achieving a first win as soon as possible.
Tukaj še ni tistega o motorju damn...
LP, Rok
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No a ste vidli, da so naredili korak naprej!
Zdej bo treba počakat a bojo čez tri dirke dali zopet novo evolucijo motorja?
Kakšna evolucija ali dve pa se bodo borili z Renaultom, če bo McLaren delal še naprej take korake, potem ga bojo kmalu prehiteli (BAR).
Jordan pa ima očitno spet probleme z vzdržljivostjo - res škoda Giancarlo mi je kul voznik.
LP, Rok
Zdej bo treba počakat a bojo čez tri dirke dali zopet novo evolucijo motorja?
Kakšna evolucija ali dve pa se bodo borili z Renaultom, če bo McLaren delal še naprej take korake, potem ga bojo kmalu prehiteli (BAR).
Jordan pa ima očitno spet probleme z vzdržljivostjo - res škoda Giancarlo mi je kul voznik.
LP, Rok
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huh, men je tut u kurcu, res bi se lohk mal bol potrudl.hm, baje da bo neki mclaren mel spet ene hondine motorje, k mu mercedez ne odgovarja vec, k ga ma v 40% lastnistvu.
Hja, to bi blo supr, bi se spet vrnil ksni stari cajti, McLaren Honde...to bi pa blo neki ja, bi ferrari spet mal pocepnu + ostali.upam da se bo to kdaj zgodil.
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Hja, to bi blo supr, bi se spet vrnil ksni stari cajti, McLaren Honde...to bi pa blo neki ja, bi ferrari spet mal pocepnu + ostali.upam da se bo to kdaj zgodil.
Honda Power!!
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